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IEEE 802 EC Privacy Recommendation Study GroupDecember 10th,2014, Conference Call
2014-12-10Juan Carlos Zuniga, InterDigital Labs(EC SG Chair)
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WelcomeChair'sslidesIEEE SlidesCall meeting to orderGroup’s updatesLocalSpace Address Usage SG (802c PAR)IETFMAC address randomization trial preliminary resultsTechnicalTopicsThreat Model for Privacy at LinkLayerPrivacyIssues at Link LayerProposalsregarding functionalities in IEEE 802 protocols to improve PrivacyProposalsregarding measuring levels of Privacy on InternetprotocolsImplications of MAC address changesOtherNextSteps
Call Meeting to OrderMeeting called to order by chair atMinutes takerRoll Call
Agenda bashingApproval of minutesReportsGroup’s updatesLocal Space Address Usage SG (802c PAR)IETF MAC address randomizationtrial -preliminaryresults
IEEE802cPAR Discussions
Meeting held todiscussIEEE802c draft PAR, "Local MACAddressing"IntroductoryRemarks, Glenn Parsons, EricssonPresentations"Background Material," Pat Thaler,Broadcom"Some Things are Better Left Unmanaged," Dan Harkins, ArubaNetworks"IEEE 802 Privacy ECSG Summary of Concerns," Juan Carlos Zuniga,InterDigital"Zonal Address Partitioning in the Local Space" Roger Marks, EthAirNetAssociates"Motivations for CID creation and encouragement for use of local addresses," Bob Grow"Privacy in DSRC V2X communication," John Kenney,Toyota
802.1 Local Address SG
Localspace MAC address usageSGStudy Group formed to look at addressing issues from all the different points of view and potentially propose a new scope for the work (PAR)Potential topics to be consideredAddress allocationAddress assignation protocolClaimingprotocol without aserverGroup to meet at January interim meeting in AtlantaAgendas will be coordinated with Privacy EC SG to avoid conflicts
Trial at IETF meeting
Preliminary results from trial at IETF 91 meetingCarlos J. Bernardos (University Carlos III of Madrid)
Next stepsCompile results from MAC privacy experiment and produce a report and follow up stepsConsiderdeveloping a PAR on recommended privacy practices for IEEE 802 protocolsContinue call for proposals to discuss technical topicsThreat Model for Privacy at Link LayerPrivacy Issues at LinkLayerProposalsregarding functionalities in IEEE 802 protocols to improvePrivacyProposalsregarding measuring levels of Privacy on InternetprotocolsImplicationsof MAC addresschangesOther…
Upcomingmeetings12-15 January 2015, IEEE Interim meeting in Atlanta, GA, USA4 February 2015, (10:00 AM ET), TeleconferencePotential PAR/CSD submission25 February 2015, (10:00 AM ET), TeleconferenceMarch 8-13, 2015, IEEE 802 Plenary meeting in Berlin,GermanyMeeting adjourned at





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