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State of Alaska board of registration for architects, engineers, and land surveyors (AELS) Boardregulation update
Brian Hanson, PECraigFredeen, PE
AELS Board Regulation Update
What we’re going to coverin this session:Recent Addition of Engineering DisciplinesChanges from Original Proposed RegulationContinuing Education UpdateHelpful Hints on How toDocument in case of AuditHow Integration of Surveyor CE Regulations Impact EngineersUpdate onMOE/B+30Questions
History on “General Licensure”
AELS Board receives a “Sunset Audit” every 5 years from the Legislature.Past audits have asked for expansion of the engineering licenses recognized by the State.If not done, Legislature has authority to make it happen themselves.Continuing Education is an example of this.Currentregsdo not currently accept Structural or Environmental comity applications.They must take CE exam.
Today’s Engineering Disciplines
AELS Board’s current recognized engineering licensesChemical EngineerCivil EngineerElectrical EngineerMechanical EngineerMining EngineerPetroleum Engineer
Path to “GeneralLicensure”
The Board started on this process many years ago.Examplescame in from comity applications that shaped current regulations.Significant debate among AELS members.Proposed regulations are not “General Licensure”.Expansion of current licenses.Purpose was to integrate alldisciplines that NCEES has test for.
Regulation Process
AELS Boardcreated“General Licensure” committee.Regulation wascrafted by committee andfinalizedby the Board.Sent out for public comment November4th.Min 30 days, General Licensurewas out for 90 days.Two BoardMeetings forverbal testimony
New Engineering Disciplines
The new engineering licenses added at the February 2011 AELS Board meeting:Agricultural EngineerControl System EngineerEnvironmental EngineerFire Protection EngineerIndustrial EngineerMetallurgical and Materials EngineerNaval Architectural and Marine EngineerNuclear EngineerStructural Engineer(Architectural Engineer was dropped)
What Happened at Last Meeting?
Regulation was PASSED by the Board on February 4, 2011 with modificationsAdded back license identifiers to stampImplementation date of August 31, 2011.What’s next?Reggoes to Assistant Attorney General for review, then signed by Lt. Governor.Two more Board meetings before August 31st.Review and create implementation regulations.Implementation regulations may be public noticed.
Overlapping Fields of Design
New disciplines do create more overlap.Civil - Structural and Environmental.Fire Protection – Mechanical and ElectricalControls – Mechanical and ElectricalOther overlaps occur with Industrial and Architectural licenses.
Impact toAlaskan Engineers
WillI be able to do what I did before?Yes!Board still focuses on three-legged stool for judging competency.EducationExperienceTestingWillthere be “grandfathering”?Most likely, but still defining.Not necessarily for all disciplines.Comity or testing is best path to new licenses.
Continuing Education Version 2.0
Halfway through second cycle of CE.Need 24 PDHs by end of 2011.Hints for documenting CE:Prove that you were there.Save your receipts.Invitations do not count.Save information about what the topic was about.Don’t forget about non-conference PDHs.Save documentation for carry-over from last cycle
How Surveyors Impact CE
Recent regulation combined the surveyor CE requirements with those of the engineers and architects.Additional CE methods added:Authoring papers, articles, or books (max 10 PDH)Serving as an officer or active committee member of professional or technical society (max 8 PDH)
Quick History ofB+30/MOE
NCEES created a committee with several other professional societies includingASCEandNSPEto review “big picture” of engineering licensure.Study noted that core engineering college courses were being reduced for BS degree.Increase in number of “soft skills” credits.Reduction in overall credits.Expanding technology and Body of Knowledge (BOK).Study recommended more education beyond BS for eligibility to take PE test.NCEES formed committee. Came up with B+30.Required 30 college credits beyond BS degree.Contentious debate, close votes, B+30 passedEventually passed into NCEES Model Law and Model Engineer 2020.B+30now known as Masters or Equivalent (MOE)
Update on B+30/MOE
NCEES Member Boards asked for more alternatives to B+30.NCEES committee came back with twoalternate paths to 30 credits that includes:BS with 150 credits, minimum STEM creditsGoing to NCEES national meeting for voteMixture of additional years of experience, documented mentoring, and continuing educationStill in NCEES committee.Being refined.Still slated for 2020 start for NCEESNo state looking to implement at this time.





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